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rEvolutionTU > btw, what will you guys do in april? =P
MadMax RuS > same we did in march - try no take over the world!
rEvolutionTU > you obviously didnt hear it from me
rEvolutionTU > but scalding will be empty :/
MadMax RuS > you're moving?
rEvolutionTU > the great war was announced -.-
MadMax RuS > let me guess
MadMax RuS > north?
rEvolutionTU > yup
rEvolutionTU > cow/atlas/gc/prim are all moving
rEvolutionTU > the renters are left to rot =D
MadMax RuS > good luck with lags
rEvolutionTU > you guys formed cause you didnt like those blobs, right?
MadMax RuS > something like that
MadMax RuS > noobs, blobs, naptrains etc
rEvolutionTU > do you know how it started? cause I assume there will be quite some people who will have similar attitudes after like 1 month of the the war on the north
rEvolutionTU > and something like ds is missing for english speaking people =P
MadMax RuS > there are many russian-speaking players which are really good at what we're doing so we're fine
rEvolutionTU > I'm more looking for hints how on how you guys started out and what your problems were initially
MadMax RuS > we started long ago in the north, we were a part of an alliance called White Noise
MadMax RuS > that alliance changed its path to capitals and poses so we quit and moved to pure blind
MadMax RuS > killing some nc is always fun
MadMax RuS > when everyone in pure blind and neighbouring regs started to log off when seeing us in local we moved to lowsecs near delve
rEvolutionTU > how did you get the intital people together?
rEvolutionTU > cause if some people might decide starting something like this I guess the hardest part is getting people to leave their corps/alliances
MadMax RuS > we were a part of a pretty big ally and our eventmakers were pretty famous
MadMax RuS > so people came to us
rEvolutionTU > hmm...
MadMax RuS > and you know some forum recruiting
rEvolutionTU > I guess if you have the fcs and whatnot it is half the deal
MadMax RuS > some epic related links and the people flow will be good
rEvolutionTU > you mean kb links?
MadMax RuS > yep
MadMax RuS > you know, its funny, the PUNT leader spoke to me the same way you do now, when they were leaving your ally
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > I guess we'll start getting a core of people during this war and then run away or sth
rEvolutionTU > lol
rEvolutionTU > really?
rEvolutionTU > its really stupid even though GC has so much potential
MadMax RuS > GC has too much ambitions
rEvolutionTU > it has a horrible leader
MadMax RuS > make Mukk and Faffy follow you and you will make a good start :D
rEvolutionTU > that will never happen :/
rEvolutionTU > mukk is part of the problem to be honest
rEvolutionTU > we do a lot of "bc and below" roams and those are horrible for pilots
MadMax RuS > why?
rEvolutionTU > cause we get 50 people in random ships and blob the area =D
rEvolutionTU > if I want a balanced fleet I need more than 1h formup, have to doublecheck how people fit etcetc
rEvolutionTU > also for us it counts efficiency > all and killmails > all
rEvolutionTU > those are reason people are scared in expensive ships and dont want to fly e.g. logi
MadMax RuS > i agree
rEvolutionTU > I really dont think GC will be going anywhere for pvp
MadMax RuS > fly 10 people roams then
rEvolutionTU > our moon isk goes to dreads and we have too many newbs in fleets
MadMax RuS > all good pilots with good fits
rEvolutionTU > I do, those rock
rEvolutionTU > do you know what punt plans on doing?
MadMax RuS > mass recruiting always kills the all-around skill
MadMax RuS > punt made an ally to camp the RMOC i think lol
rEvolutionTU > lol
rEvolutionTU > oh also what did you mean by
rEvolutionTU > [13:58:11] MadMax RuS > GC has too much ambitions
rEvolutionTU > like roaming+caps+sov?
MadMax RuS > no
MadMax RuS > you care too much for killboard. its efficiency. because of that you dont fight when you have chances to lose
MadMax RuS > you = GC i mean
rEvolutionTU > I mean if you look at e.g. PLs killboard in 2008 or 2009
rEvolutionTU > their efficiency was horrible at times
rEvolutionTU > but they just lol'd, went into new ships and tried again
rEvolutionTU > I really hope we'll find some guys in this war and do our own thing
rEvolutionTU > I love how you guys smack us around each day btw
MadMax RuS > like what?
rEvolutionTU > you mean you smacking us around?
rEvolutionTU > or why I like it? =P
MadMax RuS > how do we smack?
MadMax RuS > i missed something? :D
rEvolutionTU > nah, I mean in terms how you gank our fleets
MadMax RuS > oh
rEvolutionTU > before darkside appeared
MadMax RuS > i thought local stuff
rEvolutionTU > mya used to be like "we're the best roaming alliance in eve"
rEvolutionTU > nah
rEvolutionTU > now mya changed that to "we're the best roaming alliance in eve besides darkside, they practice on the testserver all fucking day who cares"
MadMax RuS > i visited the test server a year ago the last time
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > also for tons of the fleet compositions we used mya/mukk were like "THIS WILL KILL DARKSIDE NP", I can sit back and smile and listen in
rEvolutionTU > just to listen to fcs yelling at how bad pilots suck
rEvolutionTU > then we reship and take a 50 men bc roam out and pretend we're awesome =D
MadMax RuS > lol
rEvolutionTU > and the sad part is
rEvolutionTU > we're still better than most alliances
rEvolutionTU > :/
MadMax RuS > true
MadMax RuS > we're really sad when you avoid fighting with us
rEvolutionTU > lol
MadMax RuS > because we're playing for fun, not for iskies and KB numbers
rEvolutionTU > you can trust me, if I'm fcing I either pretend to be afk or I have some really evil plan
rEvolutionTU > its just not worth fighting you guys at the moment with what we have
rEvolutionTU > we have no probers and just 1-2 people who pilot ceptors well enough to get warpins
MadMax RuS > you care for your efficiency too much, in my opinion, and fly gank some Stella in branch in 40 jumps instead of fighting your 25 man gang in 2-kp with your 40-50 :D
rEvolutionTU > bah, I'm rambling =P
MadMax RuS > our 25 man gang*
rEvolutionTU > I use wormholes a lot for that stuff
rEvolutionTU > its awesome
rEvolutionTU > WAY more fun than the crap around here
MadMax RuS > we use them too
rEvolutionTU > I like it much more when you enter a system and have 100 people chasing your 40
rEvolutionTU > than the other way around
rEvolutionTU > but yeah, during the war I'll mostly do bombersquads and maybe start planning a new alliance or sth
rEvolutionTU > we're officially not allowed to roam during ctas.
MadMax RuS > thats why we have no ctas
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > if I spoke russian I'd have already applied, you can bet on that =P
rEvolutionTU > *speak
MadMax RuS > lol
MadMax RuS > its never late to learn :D
rEvolutionTU > lol
rEvolutionTU > we already have people in corp
rEvolutionTU > suggesting that
rEvolutionTU > tbh
MadMax RuS > hahah
rEvolutionTU > but, yeah, you guys are scarier than PL
rEvolutionTU > I fc'd more than once vs their gangs when we lived in GW and it was not THAT hard to beat them if you have the blob
MadMax RuS > btw
rEvolutionTU > your fleets are always so fucking balanced =P
MadMax RuS > Nibbletek
MadMax RuS > do you know them?
rEvolutionTU > they wardecced our alt alliance some days ago
rEvolutionTU > why?
MadMax RuS > they are pretty much our equivalent but english speaking
MadMax RuS > very good base and skill
rEvolutionTU > yep, its those guys. they just have that one corp and the rest is like 1 dude each
MadMax RuS > they created this ally for an alliance champ
rEvolutionTU > but would be sad if they'd do empire wars a lot
MadMax RuS > they have a base in empire but operate mostly in nullsec as i know
MadMax RuS > check their killboard
rEvolutionTU > Access denied!You must be a member of NibbleTek to view this killboard.
rEvolutionTU >
MadMax RuS > oh well
MadMax RuS > battleclinic is still your frindly spy :D
rEvolutionTU > but thats a nice clue
rEvolutionTU > OH while we're at it
rEvolutionTU > the fittings you guys use for your scimis
rEvolutionTU > how on earth to they work for cap?
MadMax RuS > well, you know i'm not supposed to tell you this stuff
rEvolutionTU > its just my logi alt
MadMax RuS > i can tell that they have enough cap to operate effectively
rEvolutionTU > is almost maxed
MadMax RuS > as you can see
rEvolutionTU > and its very, very thin
rEvolutionTU > I ASSUME 1:30 mins is enough
rEvolutionTU > since ideal case you burn off and never use mwd again
MadMax RuS > you're close to truth
rEvolutionTU > our guys usually try to fit scimis as stable as possible, but I think its the wrong approach
rEvolutionTU > all I see is that yours is way way less capstable
rEvolutionTU > I just dont get why ~2min without mwd with 3 reps works out
rEvolutionTU > or is that secret, too? =P
MadMax RuS > i believe that you can understand it without my help
MadMax RuS > just imagine how they move and work
MadMax RuS > and you'll get it
rEvolutionTU > I think its just that you assume that if you'd EVER have to permarun reps you fucked up somewhere else
rEvolutionTU > =P
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > also
rEvolutionTU > its quite funny
rEvolutionTU > that our fcs always try to call you prim in your scimmi
rEvolutionTU > mya really hates you
rEvolutionTU >
MadMax RuS > im being called primary the last 2 years so its fine
rEvolutionTU > (its not that bad, I'm kidding, otherwise I would tell you =P)
rEvolutionTU > but what I really would like to know
rEvolutionTU > please dont tell me
rEvolutionTU > you're fcing from that fucking scimmi
rEvolutionTU > if you do that, tell me how
MadMax RuS > LOL
rEvolutionTU > whenever I fly logi
rEvolutionTU > I'm totally fucking useless
rEvolutionTU > I already theorycrafted that you use that scimi as formup, but I dont think it could work
MadMax RuS > you undestand that i wont tell you anything that will help you kill us :D you need to guess it all on your own
rEvolutionTU > (btw, its funny that 2 darkside dramiels avoided my celestis and the first AAA dude suicided into me)
MadMax RuS > and im sure you can
rEvolutionTU > in all honesty
rEvolutionTU > I'm not fcing this alliance against you guys
MadMax RuS > i know
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > unless I have cloaked smartbombing battleships and a dictor
rEvolutionTU > in your align
rEvolutionTU > I already tried to get that going since your aligns are so damn predictable
rEvolutionTU > but our pilots couldnt get the ships
MadMax RuS > thats bad, you have to try, its all very exciting
MadMax RuS > the last time we had a big fight the day XIII were defending their pos
rEvolutionTU > vs us your only weakness is that you guys are so fucking cocky lateley
rEvolutionTU > =P
MadMax RuS > you had some good covops that was giving warpins over and over again
rEvolutionTU > at that pos thing?
rEvolutionTU > iirc we used wrecks all the time
rEvolutionTU > or faffy/me in ceptors
MadMax RuS > let me find the kb link
rEvolutionTU > was it that thing were you guys jumped into a cow sniper hac gang with bubbles anchored?
rEvolutionTU > then cow cried for help and you won like 60 vs 130?
MadMax RuS > no
MadMax RuS > this one
MadMax RuS >
http://kb.ds-alliance.com/?a=kill_related&btl_id=465&kb=frsMadMax RuS > the covops pilot did a really good job that time
MadMax RuS > and for sure the lags did
MadMax RuS > i mean you have to try some new tactics. we're not immortal and we can be asskicked
rEvolutionTU > i like that pl squad in the middle
rEvolutionTU > but damn, I missed that one
rEvolutionTU > I still have some tricks in my pocket left, but those have to wait till we are set up somewhere
rEvolutionTU > but I'm pretty sure 100km rr BSs DONT work =P
MadMax RuS > you have to try it
rEvolutionTU > we did
MadMax RuS > and we're not always on drakes\shield hacs
rEvolutionTU > your armor stuff is even scarier
MadMax RuS > we often roam on BSes and in t1 cruisers
rEvolutionTU > I never saw you in BSs
rEvolutionTU > I saw the t1 cruiser+guardians
MadMax RuS > we visited KZF on BSes 2 days ago
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > OH
rEvolutionTU > was it that
rEvolutionTU > mass apoc fleet?
MadMax RuS > no just some mixed battleships and BC's
MadMax RuS > with 3 or 4 guardians
rEvolutionTU > do you guys base your roam theme on the FCs mood or anything more specific?
rEvolutionTU > lucky bastard, when I ask for guardians I get 1-2 guys x-ing up in our primetime =D
MadMax RuS > we have no timetable if you're alking about that
rEvolutionTU > no I mean like
rEvolutionTU > "this could be 20jumps or deeper into insmother, we'll do something faster"
MadMax RuS > we roam to places that can have possible targets
rEvolutionTU > oh also what I wondered about
MadMax RuS > places where someone has a blob on the map ot the place where some ally has cta
rEvolutionTU > why do you guys never use LR hacs?
MadMax RuS > because they are fail :D
rEvolutionTU > why exactly?
rEvolutionTU > I was so amazed by PL using them
rEvolutionTU > but I also wondered why I never saw you guys in them
MadMax RuS > they cant tackle a thing so if your opponent doesnt want to fight he just kills your dictors and runs
MadMax RuS > we dont like things running from us
rEvolutionTU > theorycraft
rEvolutionTU > you guys roam NC space with 50 people
rEvolutionTU > wouldnt hacs be > drakeblob?
rEvolutionTU > or do you guys take 200 men in that formation, too? :/
MadMax RuS > we never have 200 man fleets
rEvolutionTU > nono
rEvolutionTU > the NC would bring 200 =P
MadMax RuS > oh
rEvolutionTU > its like that everytime you roam there
rEvolutionTU > thats why I enjoy bringing lr hacs up there
rEvolutionTU > I kinda assume that the drakes would get outblobbed where snipers can stay and keep killing
MadMax RuS > lags ruin everything
MadMax RuS > where drakes will be outblobbed the snipehacs will not be able to work cause of lags
MadMax RuS > so we'll probably split them in 2 100-man halfs and kill separately
rEvolutionTU > I'd love to know how you'd accomplish that
rEvolutionTU > seperating tackle is easy
rEvolutionTU > but seperating the actual fleet seems damn hard
MadMax RuS > being realistic, we will not fight 200 men
MadMax RuS > if we have 50
rEvolutionTU > yes, but you'll take on 100
rEvolutionTU > unless you're trolling me and have no solution on how to do that either =P
MadMax RuS > for sure
rEvolutionTU > how to split 200 into 2x100, I mean
MadMax RuS > trolling ofc
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > you suck
rEvolutionTU >
rEvolutionTU > btw
rEvolutionTU > you cant imagine
rEvolutionTU > how much it helps you guys that you're russian
rEvolutionTU > for some reason
MadMax RuS > why?
rEvolutionTU > people are really damn afraid of russians
rEvolutionTU > :D
MadMax RuS > lol
rEvolutionTU > a few days ago when I was like "hows hed?" in local to you
rEvolutionTU > my guys in fleet were like
rEvolutionTU > "you're talking to him!??!" - "yeah, hes cool" - "but hes russian!?!"
rEvolutionTU > was epic
MadMax RuS >
rEvolutionTU > I think there's something about "we cant understand them"
MadMax RuS > the fact people are afraid doesn help us, it ruins opportunities
MadMax RuS > to have some nice fights
rEvolutionTU > you remember yesterday around 9px?
rEvolutionTU > where we had the like BC only fleet?
MadMax RuS > yes
rEvolutionTU > why did you not fight?
rEvolutionTU > I mean, I was damn glad you didnt (I'll tell you why in a second)
rEvolutionTU > but I really wondered why
MadMax RuS > because some of our pilots failed hard and we had an intel that around 20 cow are on their way to help you and you had like 40 ppl vs our 24
MadMax RuS > and we lost 1 of 3 logistics
rEvolutionTU > I dont want to imagine what "fail" means for you guys
MadMax RuS > because of an epic communication failure
rEvolutionTU > lol
rEvolutionTU > tell
rEvolutionTU > I expected
rEvolutionTU > your fleet to jump in and burn
rEvolutionTU > or burn off
rEvolutionTU > then like half jumped
rEvolutionTU > burned back at different times
rEvolutionTU > and the scimitar loldied
MadMax RuS > well, half of the fleet did it and the second half stayed on the other side and was like "wtf?!"
rEvolutionTU > lol.
MadMax RuS > we fail hard sometimes, you see
rEvolutionTU > they didnt want to jump in?
MadMax RuS > no
rEvolutionTU > LOL.
rEvolutionTU > okay, our side is even more funny tbh
rEvolutionTU > the guy who FC'd
rEvolutionTU > was 5 days in his corp when I logged on
rEvolutionTU > darkside gets reported and his 3 men camp blows up to 60 people
rEvolutionTU > but he was willing to do it
rEvolutionTU > our fleet was ONLY bcs
rEvolutionTU > no logi, no tackle
rEvolutionTU > so I didnt care if he suicided it for experience
rEvolutionTU > we landed on the 9px gate with you guys reported on the other side
rEvolutionTU > and he said "whatever we do, we wont burn after them"
rEvolutionTU > :D
MadMax RuS > hehe
MadMax RuS > and we were yelling on each other in ts
MadMax RuS > :D
rEvolutionTU > it looked pretty fun
rEvolutionTU > i wondered for a second if this was some epic bait
rEvolutionTU > that could work btw
rEvolutionTU > our guy proceeded to tell people to jump behind you and chase
rEvolutionTU > lucky we were agressed
MadMax RuS > well, at least you know now that we're not fucking scary russian monsters made of steel, and you can fight with us
MadMax RuS > tell the others :D
rEvolutionTU > you are fucking commies made of russian vodky
rEvolutionTU > *vodka
MadMax RuS >
rEvolutionTU > i think I might to a suicide ops against you guys
rEvolutionTU > we have ships which need insurance burned
rEvolutionTU > *might do, durr
MadMax RuS > our prime is like 17-21 EVE
MadMax RuS > i mean 17.00-21.00 EVE time
rEvolutionTU > I really like that idea
rEvolutionTU > if I announce it as suicide
rEvolutionTU > people wont be scared =D
MadMax RuS > well, need to go afk now, thanks for a nice chat
rEvolutionTU > thanks, too
rEvolutionTU > <3
MadMax RuS > o7
Краткие итоги для тех, кто не осилил:
- в апреле дженты и праймари уедут на север и у нас станет меньше целей.
- дженты боятся нас как огня
- фк джентов ненавидят меня лично и стараются прайморить
)))
- внутри их алли растёт негодование, и по крайней мере одна корпа планирует уйти и заняться тем же чем и мы
- они негодуют от того как наши скими летают без перма-мвд (лулз)
- мне удалось немного склонить в сторону того, что не такие уж мы и страшные, и он даже обмолвился о том что сделает суицид опс против нас (йахуу)
