CSM

[[S0T] Nama'Shitsu]

Квортон, любой человек, даже изредка читавший ивсру на протяжении нескольких лет, имел возможность напороться на пронизанные национализмом посты Фона. Вполне возможно, что человек, столкнувшийся случайно с постом Фона давно, просто забыл где конкретно тот пост расположен.

С какой целью ты так настойчиво требуешь ссылки на его наци-посты? Ты не веришь всем здесь отписавшимся, что они эти посты видели? Ты защищаешь Фона? Или тебе просто поугарать над его упоротостью охота? В последнем варианте иди на ивсру и юзай себе поиск по сообщениям Фона.

[[-FRS-] QuorthonSeth]

т.е. ты не можешь дать линки на "пронизанные национализмом" посты Фона, так?

[[-FRS-] QuorthonSeth]

С какой целью ты так настойчиво требуешь ссылки на его наци-посты?

Потому что мне...эм...интересно...не? было б неинтересно - не требовал бы. +)
И кстати не требую, а просто спрашиваю.

А интересно мне потому, что "пронизанные национализмом" неочень однозначная характеристика, и мне реально интересно, что именно подразумевается под этим, равно как и то, чем конкретно фон вызвал такую нелюбовь.

[[S0T] Nama'Shitsu]

Ты ведёшь себя как дешёвый тролль. Да, я не могу дать тебе ссылки на те его посты, на которые натыкался пол года, год и полтора года назад. Иди и юзай поиск, раз тебя так от любопытства распирает.

[[-FRS-] i Beast]

Ну Вас

[[-FRS-] Bo4]

Думаю, достаточно найти пвп ролик Фона, который он выложил во время прошлых выборов. Там из подборки музыки все сделали соответствующие выводы. Этот же ролик вроде и на официальный форум попал.

[[S0T] Shinah Myst]

А те, кому нравится Burzum - сатанисты и жгут церкви, да?

[[A0E..] Phaeton One]

То есть ты намекаешь на глубокую музыкальную составляющую песен из мувика Фона?  Более страшного дерьма, чем Нс музыка не существует на этой планете.

[[S0T] Shinah Myst]

Более страшного дерьма, чем НС музыка не существует на этой планете.

Ну конечно! А этот, как его... дабстеп?

[[-FRS-] Inggroth]

Более страшного дерьма, чем Нс музыка не существует на этой планете.

Ну тоже разные вещи бывают. Если исполнитель в состоянии не выплёскивать свои НС-взгляды в музыку то всё ок (ИМХО)
Одно дело скажем бухой  Høst выступил во время одного концерта с нарисованной  свастикой на груди  потому что лол германия (скандал помню был пиздец)
Или там Варг Викернес делится в интервью своим мировоззрением
И совсем другое когда открытый расизм/национализм в текстах как например Sleipnir (в фоновском ролике, ога)

[[-FRS-] QuorthonSeth]

Или там Варг Викернес делится в интервью своим мировоззрением

ну варг церкви вон жег еще (правда вроде не признался на суде ни в чем)

про тексты не говорю, я их просто не знаю, но вряд ли он пел о любви да

вобщем:

И совсем другое когда открытый расизм/национализм в текстах как например Sleipnir (в фоновском ролике, ога)

...как-то не аргумент, с таким же успехом можно наезжать на всех кто слушает black/death и много чо еще...тексты вообще много где доставляют да

1хуй это аргумент из серии "седня он слушает джаз, а завтра родину продаст"

я согласен, что выбор музыки был достаточно провокационным, а сама музыка...ну...как-то неочень да +) хотя вроде 1 штуковина мне там даже понравилась

однако это в любом случае ничего не говорит о взглядах фона и его мировоззрении, это опять же догадки и домыслы других людей

[[-FRS-] i Beast]

Более страшного дерьма, чем НС музыка не существует на этой планете.

Ну конечно! А этот, как его... дабстеп?

дабстеп был неплохо будучи не мейнстримом. не по теме, но все же.

[[S0T] Shinah Myst]

про тексты не говорю, я их просто не знаю, но вряд ли он пел о любви, да

Про эльфов у него. ВНЕЗАПНО. И про Одина с компанией. Ну, в основном

дабстеп был неплохо будучи не мейнстримом

Confirmed for хипстерящая школота.

[[-FRS-] Bilaz]

А те, кому нравится Burzum - сатанисты и жгут церкви, да?

Вопрос не в том что музыка нравится, а в том что этот ролик это видео-ответ. Впрочем лучше слово автору, чтобы он сам сказал пару слов ( ) по этому поводу:

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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
Out of Sight.
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#1Posted: 2012.03.05 23:22 | Edited by: ISD Suvetar
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TL;DR: The Rocket Triptych is over, no longer playing handicapped. Also, armour tank is back.

Ladies and gentlemen,

this movie has been brewed in accordance with strict Aryan purity laws, so you won't see me participating in zero-risk fights and then making pathetic excuses that someone's got more ISK (or superior racial lineage; better brain cells; bigger balls etс.) than I do or that I treat an internet spaceship game as a serious business, which absolutely requires me to chase 'combat efficiency' via hot-drops, usage of penny-pinching ships exclusively or through so-called 'teamwork', which in turn in the overwhelming majority of cases is just a bashful euphemism for personal impotence. We'd better keep these poor gimmicks for real-life wars, while true sportsmanship in a mere game is something entirely different.

On the other hand, I've got no need to make my movie look any better than it actually is by importunately emphasizing that I used unscouted, unboosted ships and empty clones and how having a clumsy expensive ship scouted and boosted is a sign of cowardice. In fact, just the reverse - I'm quite happy with utilizing extra firepower as long as it allows me to get challenges of higher ranks and have even more fun and even bigger space for creativity. Meanwhile, a plain gank will always be a gank no matter how exactly it is performed. For some reason I believe that those extra capabilities I bring in have always been justified by increased number of opponents and by sheer footage I get. Might be very naive of me, I know :]

Everyone's gifted by Lord in his own way, so each of us can only really compete with just one person in the whole world - that's with himself. I've been doing exactly that. And a lot of players are reprehensible not because they are presumably bad at PvP, but because they aren't daring enough and will never try checking out whether they are indeed that petty, that they have to hide behind their soulless blobs (whatever the size), devoid of any ambition and relying on sheer numerical advantage and stats instead of the skill and mental efforts.

More men are beaten than fail.
It is not wisdom they need or money,
or brilliance, or "pull," but just plain gristle and bone.

Henry Ford


P.S.

I'm running for CSM this year and I see some saying quite nasty things about me during the campaign. Let God be their judge. This movie is yet another unselfish gift of mine to the whole EVE community. If it - combined with my previous works - is not enough to get me into CSM, then so be it.

Trying to please everybody surely has never been my goal. Truth matters, respect of pharisees does not. And I know in my heart, that what I do ain't wrong.

Cheers.

И чуть позже

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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
Out of Sight.
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#89Posted: 2012.03.12 16:42 | Edited by: Fon Revedhort
Alright, some stuff which I feel like posting, despite some might hate me even more after reading it.

"Dude, how did you dare express your views in a PvP video???" This question is so stupid that I'm not even sure what to start with. As an author I may express whatever I want as long as it's not prohibited. As a work of art, the movie may or I'd even say should contain an idea behind it. Those bothering to spill **** over me for bringing something unusual might be treating the entire world's art as a mere entertainment (like a lousy circus show), but this is surely not always the case. I'm absolutely sure the very same people thought it was OK for, say, James Cameron to propagate racial treachery in his Avatar film. Or did they even notice what the film was all about?

As for music, speaking namely of rock, this genre has always been extremely politically loaded. Proper rock is not an insipid metal to tell you about some unrelated crap or fantasies. Rock has always been topical, it has always addressed things people are unhappy with. Right-rock is no exception, the only difference is that it's spreading the ideas in a pretty straight-forward way instead of hiding them deep within fancy lyrics and allegories (something Queen was famous for), so that more people can get them. Rock by its definition is a protest against corrupted and rotten society. The moment rock stops addressing pressing issues of the day, it becomes just pop performed live with guitars and drums.

I've always expressed my views freely just as I was taught. That had been long before I ever thought of running for CSM. It was not me who brought up totally unrelated stuff into my CSM campaign. One current CSM member was filthy enough to start these talks about me, a mere candidate, over Skype with other CSMs and CCP members - can you imagine how wrong is that, when CSM starts acting as a scandalmonger's hive instead of staying focused at EVE?! What I did here is a mere response. I responded the way a creative man can - that is with his work.

I've seen a dude writing a post in which he regrets for voting for me. He's exactly the man I don't want to see as my supporter. I would hate the idea of getting elected by damned pharisees! Also, as I said in my campaign message long before the movie was released, "I'm pretty confident that my pathological aspiration for truth may cost me some votes." That was to point exactly on my RL views. And then I see someone saying "one candidate less to vote for". For God's sake, does he really believe I'm running for CSM for my own entertainment or e-fame or to protect my assets or to propagate my RL views? That's the final stage of retardation to think that way.

My movie is a perfect proof that I've already achieved pretty much everything a player of my interests can ever achieve. Ok, Garmon is still unbeatable in terms of sheer movies and he's won AT on top of that, but I've never really considered myself as #1 PvP pilot, so I'm fine with someone achieving more. Still, I'm quite good at what I'm doing and I surely can have my chunk of fun even in fubar and stagnant EVE, so it would be just plain stupid to think that by voting for me you're somehow making the things easier for me alone. As for my RL views, I'm happy with them, but I - unlike the CSM member mentioned above - can set them aside if not prompted. Those few quotations they use as an 'evidence' of my 'utter intolerance' and 'willingness to talk about RL things right and left' are just non-significant among those hundreds of posts I've made on EVE itself. As for the quotations themselves, I was always a firm believer that one has to spread his knowledge (or even mere views if you so please), especially when most are bashfully silent. Yet again, I committed no crime and broke no rules.

Also, at the end of the day, there's no such thing as collective responsibility, everyone will be judged by his own deeds - and it's quite wise to assume that those knowing something or just capable to act and still remaining silent or passive will be responsible for that in more strict manner than the rest of the rabble.

So when asked "what have you done in your life to fight the **** you lived in?" I can safely say that I released "Motorization of Disciples" precisely the way it was actually released.

Hope that helps. Still, I wish the best of luck for all of you. I'll even reserve right to hand you out another gift of mine at some point in the future, even though some people are making it extremely thankless...

[[S0T] Starain]

Билаз, вот зачем ты линканул и перекрыл товарищу Кворти кормушку? Он бы так еще страницы 2 "ничего не слышу, ничего не вижу" имитировал бы...